LIFE IS RICH GO GET THE LIFE RUN WEN U RUN BESS BLESS DE RESS
Added on Date: 03:11:48 7/01/99
: LIFE IS RICH GO GET THE LIFE RUN WEN U RUN BESS BLESS DE RESS
NO BED AROSE
Added on Date: 03:14:28 7/01/99
: LIFE IS RICH GO GET THE LIFE RUN WEN U RUN BESS BLESS DE RESS
go hard or go home.....Dennis///////////
Added on Date: 03:18:08 7/01/99
: There is a 9-hole course on Caye Chapel, just south of Caye Caulker. Very controversial, in many ways -- politically, economically and environmentally. There are some private holes off the Northern Highway, but the Caye Chapel course is all you can play now. A couple of courses are in the blue sky stage.
Thanks for the response. Can you give me any more details about this course on Caye Chapel? If nothing else, who could I contact about playing there? I doubt I will go there during this vacation but maybe in the future.
: --Lan Sluder
Added on Date: 10:06:18 7/01/99
This is an issue on the "lovefm.com" site, my response is below. But send your comments regarding the questions to "lovefm@btl.net"
Lovefm :
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
As part of the ongoing radio programme "Facts for Families" Love FM and the National Committee for Families and Children would like to have your opinion on the role fathers should play in the protection of children. Should they only be there to provide financial support? Should they help in nurturing the child? What about fathers who have children with many women? Is that being responsible? Click on the link below to send in your comments which will be included in the next edition of Facts for Families, which will air on
Love FM on the night of Monday, July 5.
My response :
My view on a father's role in a childs life :
In any platonic family that consist of a mother, father and child or children as the case may be, fathers play a very important role in the child's life. Children don't only see their father as a financial provider but look to them for strength, guidance and support. Nothing more pleases a child or his father when a child boast about "boy my daddy could..., and my daddy da..." Children seldom speak of their mothers the way they do about their fathers even if the father is not actively involved in the child's everyday upbringing i.e. tending to meals, supervising chores, assisting in school work etc.. the child still boast about his father figure.
But if we take this relation away from the child both father and child suffers emotionally and physically. But if the child grew up without having met his father the only person that suffers in this scenario is the child, and his longing to belong and fit into some pier group he is presently in "click" with.
As for those men who father many children without due caution or care for the women they impregnate or the fatherless child they spawn should not even be called men. But as seemly as it may be this is the very same reason these men carry on in the manner they do, so that they can be called men and proclaim their right and place as a man in a man's world. They don't provide financially, they don't provide emtionally but yet when the child is of age they can point a finger and say "boy that da mi son" and be proud of something or someone they did not lift a finger to help. And when a child hear's this proclamation of fathership that was not in his life prior to, depending on the age ofthe child they either put blame on their mothers, rebel against the father, or fall prey to an emotional rut that confuses him or her well into their adulthood and beyond.
The damage is unrepairable and often times are not the fathers fault. We have cases where mother and father separates and the mother refuses the father his rights and go through various manipulating tactics to prolong the bonding and meanwhile instigating fear and disgust in the child towards his father. They are the cases where the father does not want to be involved in the upbringing as Belizean men often think its the women's job to tend the house, the children and still make time to tend to his needs. Then we have step-fathers who either don't like the child from the previous marriage or try to take away some of the attention given to the child to focus on himself and his new relation. In this case if the step-father and the child does not bond then the mother is to blame because they should make clear from the beginning of the relationship that if you don't like and accept my child or children then you don't accept me and the same should be presented to the child. But too often as the case maybe the children are the last to considerin relations and their feelings get swept aside momentarily to assuage selfish needs.
But never the less the child is the one who bears the the bigger weight of this emotional burden and then some. And what do we have to offer them not much just a hug and a kiss if at all followed by orders, go do this, go get that, why aren't you this, why haven't you... Instaed of making special time for the child to grow, learn and adjust to any of these situations presented or others.
But the bottom line is involve the child in the matters of the household. Make him feel important in decission making and when this is exercised you will see that the child will make the effort to adjust to family needs and make extra little efforts to make both parents feel as important as they make him or her feel. When this happens it makes the entire family more responsive and in touch with their role as family members.
Avrail Parham
Added on Date: 10:53:15 7/01/99
I've stayed at Journey's End... I'd recommend it!
Oh wait.. I also work there....
Seriously, you can check out:
www/journeysendresort.com/notes.htm
at the bottom of the page is our guest book. Click on it, read what others have said. Feel free to email any of them.
Thanks,
Denny Shane
: I was just wondering if anyone has stayed at Journey's End and if so would they recommend it.
Added on Date: 16:38:29 7/01/99
I AM LOOKING TO FIND A PERSON HER NAME IS JACKIE RAYBURN, DAUGHTER OF THE ONCE CALLED MIGHTY LORD RAYBURN A BAND SINGER IN BELIZE CITY IN 1985. JACKIE WILL BE ABOUT 31 YEARS OLD AND USE TO WORK IN ODETS STOOR AND FREQUENT THE PUB IF IT IS STILL CALLED THAT ..THANKS
Added on Date: 17:23:50 7/01/99
Hello all! Jill here, back from Belize to file a report about hotels, snorkeling and such on the off chance that I can help someone make a decision about where to stay, what to do, etc. Let me start by saying that everyone we met was extremely nice, helpful and sincerely friendly, and even though I feel I must be as honest as possible in this report, I cannot stress enough how much I enjoyed the company of all the people I met on this trip—thanks, everybody!
That said, here’s my report (which includes stuff about Jaguar Paw, Pook’s Hill, the Tikal Inn, Ranguana Caye and Little Water Caye):
Jaguar Paw is everything everyone said it would be. The road in is rough and exciting, the setting amid tall, cliff-like hills and semi-old growth forest is beautiful, the rooms are cleverly decorated, the food is fantastic, and the service is excellent. In response to someone’s recent posting about there not being much wildlife at Jaguar Paw, I must say that I saw more animals at Jaguar Paw than anywhere else save Tikal. Chika the howler monkey, if a bit standoffish, was nevertheless always there for the viewing, as was Willie the coati, who helped himself into the restaurant through the pushdoor and scampered through the guests on his way upstairs. Personally, I loved having my own set of guard dogs outside my door day and night (Henry, Chicken Dog, Snake and Shadow), and it was great fun when they went with us on the cave-tubing trip. I also saw toads, bats, fish in the river, and some sort of red flycatcher-like bird that kept battling with himself in my hotel room window. But despite all these great things, the best part of Jaguar Paw was the people. Cy Young was forever milling about the restaurant, bar and front desk area, dropping amusing comments here and there. I had a wonderful time chatting with Donna about Willie’s tendencies to bring “presents” before coming into the house. Emir (not sure how to spell his name) who tends bar, fixes things, sings wonderfully and runs tours, is a great guy to talk to, as is Karina, who likes Al Pacino and will wash your laundry for a mere four dollars. Alfredo at the front desk deserves some sort of award (for which helpful thing he did exactly, I’m not sure, but I’ll pin it down). Everyone—and I mean everyone—was personable and wonderful in his or her own way, and this made my vacation there almost like a stay with good friends. Oh, and before I move on, I should say that everything in the two different rooms I stayed in (the “night” room and the “parrot” room) worked perfectly. Good water pressure, toilets in fine working order, and ice-cold air conditioning. My only tiny little gripe might be the firmness of the beds (too firm)...but I'm weird that way.
The cave-tubing tour at Jaguar Paw is not to be missed. A hike of about an hour takes you to the mouth of a cave, where you slip the headlamps on, slip into the inner tube you’ve been carrying, and float leisurely downstream for what seems like hours. It’s quite relaxing, unless a gaggle of British paratroopers happen to be with you. Then the screaming and shouting and general rough-housing can leave a person a bit deaf. And although I didn’t see the Crystal Cave myself, my travelling companion said it was fantastic, though difficult to get to. I’ll take his word for it.
Also during my stay at Jaguar Paw we went to the zoo. Cy said to visit in the afternoon, near closing time, because the animals are getting antsy for their dinners, and this turned out to be true. The black jaguar paced and paced inches away from us. Little foxes posed, and just about the only animal we didn’t see was the kinkajou, which was understandably asleep in its burrow. Loved the zoo, although it was exceptionally hot on the day we visited, and the lack of trees and shading was a little disappointing to this born-and-bred Northwesterner.
One more note about Jaguar Paw: the website says that breakfast is included in the rate, but this is only partially true. When we arrived, we were given breakfast menus, and no one said a word about what was or wasn’t included in the room rate. We assumed (stupidly) that we could have anything on the menu. Instead, I guess the room rate includes only toast and coffee or something similar, and after four days, this little surprise added a substantial amount to our overall bill. Lesson: ask if you’re not sure.
Moving right along…Yute Expeditions picked us up from Jaguar Paw at 7:30am for the drive to Tikal. Phillip, who drove us in a roomy, air conditioned Jimmy, was great for pointing out sights along the way, explaining things about the flora and fauna and people we were seeing roadside, and telling jokes about the toilet-paper tycoon who was “really wiping up.” The drive didn’t seem all that long because it was so interesting, and soon we were checking into the Tikal Inn at the park. This hotel, though perfectly adequate, was not as nice as the Jungle Lodge according to practically everyone I talked to, and if you stay at the Tikal Inn, beware the rooms closest the kitchen. The staff comes in at 5am, and sound carries easily with the all-open mesh windows in your cabanas. Also, there were bugs in my bed (understandable with the window situation). Other than this, the room was clean and everything worked. And the pool was nice.
Tikal was like any other Maya ruin I’ve visited…NOT! Our guide, Louis, actually knew what he was talking about (many guides in Mexico don’t), and I was endlessly entertained not only by his stories about the various people buried at Tikal, but by his conspiracy theories, UFO tales, and assuredness that the world is going to end ala Nostrodamus. But don’t be fooled by these things—the guy knows his Maya stuff. Phillip (who drove us) said that Louis has trained almost all the guides at Tikal. I’d guess this might very well be true.
The site itself was beautiful, of course, just like all the photographs you’ve seen, but what surprised me was that it wasn’t that far to walk. I’m a wimp and I tend to faint in the heat, but Louis took our tour very slow, and before I knew it, we’d walked to the far end of the site to the tallest pyramid (temple IV?). The other thing you should know before visiting Tikal is that the park employees, if asked nicely, will drive you around the park for a tip of a few dollars. Knowing this could make all the difference in the world for someone with disabilities, older folks, or even just for ninnies like me! It lets a person save his or her strength for climbing the pyramids, right? (Well, that’s my excuse.)
The museums at Tikal are also a must-see, particularly the one with the pottery in it—gives you a chance to see stuff for real that you’ve only seen in books. There’s also a tomb recreation with all the jade and funerary pieces. Pretty cool. And I can’t end my segment about Tikal without mentioning the animals in the park—to me, the best part about the whole experience! Coatis were EVERYWHERE. Troops of them roam the park with their tails high in the air, their noses to the ground in milling amid the tourists. We also saw spider monkeys, paca, toucans, and a family of tiny foxes that had no fear of people whatsoever. Seeing these animals up close and personal was the highlight of the trip for me.
To continue our tour….It was too overcast to see either the sunset or sunrise, so to bed early we went, then had a second morning at the pyramids before climbing back in the Jimmy for the trip to Pook’s Hill.
Going to Pook’s Hill was, for me, like visiting very dear, old friends. Vicki Snaddon greeted me with such warmth and hospitality that instantly I felt as if I’d known her all my life—she’s that kind of fantastic lady. The road to her place was even bumpier and longer, if possible, than the road to Jaguar Paw, but equally filled with jungle mystery and suspense—how much further? Look at those trees! Will the truck make it up this hill? The view from the lounge area is fantastic, with the cohunes and the view across the tree tops quite lovely, and the rooms are cute little thatch numbers with great showers, although the beds are again a tad hard for my taste. My room came complete with baby lizards on the doorstep (the size of a thumbnail) and some sort of beetle with large, fluorescent-green spots on his head that glowed just like those sticks, you know? Fireflies lit up the sky at night, everywhere, even in the room, an owl called at dusk from right next to the main building, and the bird song in the morning was to die for! The only possible bad thing I can say about Pook’s Hill is that I wouldn’t drink the water there. I can’t say for sure, but I think this was the source of my bout with Montezuma, as it was the only water I came into contact with on my trip (I had no ice anywhere, and I even brushed my teeth with bottled water)—either it was Vicki’s table water, or an inadvertent gulp during my swim in the stream. Either way, be careful and play it safe!
At Pook’s Hill, they offer jungle walks and horsebackriding, but Ray (who handles the horses) was gone during my stay, and I was too tired from Tikal to do much hiking. The little I saw on my walk to the river was fantastic. Great cohunes, cooing doves, a picturesque stream crossed by a rope bridge, even a snake lounging in the water. The jungle was even more beautiful and lush than at Jaguar Paw. From horseback or hiking, I’d imagine it’d be heaven!
From Pook’s Hill to Placencia, we took the 11:10am Tropic flight from the International Airport to that tiny little airport way down south (with a stop in Dangriga between). Placencia didn’t do much for me, I have to admit. Can’t say exactly why, but it just didn’t hold the charm for me that San Pedro does, nor did the beach tickle my fancy in any way whatsoever. It didn’t help when the taxi that was supposed to be waiting for us wasn’t. Joy Leslie of Ranguana Lodge had forgotten to send it, which wouldn’t have been so bad if she hadn’t loused up the rest of our arrangements, too. I understand that things work very differently in Placencia, but when you’re putting your life in these people’s hands as they take you out to a tiny spot on the reef on a blustery day, starting off so badly doesn’t give one a sense of confidence. Joy had known I was coming in at around noon, and she’d assured me a taxi would be waiting with an ice chest to take us to the grocery store to buy provisions for our stay at Ranguana Caye (where you have to cook your own meals). She never once mentioned in our e-mails that noon wouldn’t be a good time because the stores close until 1:30pm or 2pm, and that we wouldn’t be able to get out to Ranguana until closer to 3pm, when the wind came up (and it wasn’t as safe). If I’d been apprised of these things, I would have happily made my arrangements around her suggestions. Oh well. When we got the ice chest, too, I failed to notice that it didn’t come equipped with that most essential of things—a plug. Thus, even though we secured the very last bag of ice in Placencia when the store opened, it had melted completely by the time we’d reached Ranguana. Poo.
Despite all my worries, though, our captain, Eddie Leslie, was a superb seaman and had me safe and secure on Ranguana Caye within an hour’s time. When Lan Sluder says the ride is bumpy out to these remote cayes, believe him. One of the roughest rides of my life, but Ranguana was worth it nonetheless, and I can’t stress enough how lovely, peaceful, and divine Ranguana Caye really is. The cabins are perfectly designed to catch the breeze, with beds several feet off the floor to do the same, and a wonderful porch from which to contemplate the grackles’ antics and the pelicans wheeling overhead. There’s also a dog here, Scrappy, and a gorgeous red bunny that comes out at night to root around in the skimpy grass. And lizards, always lizards, who scamper across the countertops when you go into your kitchen, and who also like to wiggle into coke bottles left out on the shelves. They wake you up at dawn with a chirpy little chorus of lizard song that’s quite neat to listen to.
The bathrooms, toilets and showers at Ranguana were clean, private and well-looked after by Jean Leslie, who lives there and reads romance novels (if anyone cares to slip a few extra into their bags for her and Mary Toy at Kevin Modera Guide Services in Placencia, it’d be appreciated, I hear). The stoves in the cabins are easy to use, and the kitchen comes well appointed with just about everything but a can opener—beware, as only one of our two cabins had one. Also, be advised that if the wind blows hard (as it did during our visit), those little cabanas can stand up to A LOT of pounding. Lightning, hard rain and gusts that I swear were up to 40mph scared the bejesus out of me, but in the morning, Mr. Leslie informed me that these same cabins had withstood Mitch, so he must’ve built them pretty darned well. Just so you know.
The snorkeling from Ranguana I can’t really comment on, I’m afraid. Mr. Leslie and Co. were pretty vague as to where the good snorkeling was located, and as Ranguana is out in the middle of nowhere near the open sea and I’m a ninny (as before mentioned) with a nonsnorkeling travelling companion, I didn’t feel comfortable going outside of the reef. I didn’t know what the currents were like, if it were dangerous, or if I’d be able to get back inside to the island again, so I snorkeled only inside the reef, which was vastly disappointing. The outside was probably great (if I’d gone), but you’ll have to confirm this with someone braver.
I caught one snapper from the leeward side of the island, and this on the advice of one interesting character named Shaky (or at least I thought this was his name). As the snapper took the only lure I had which seemed to catch fish, and as I’m not a serious fisherwoman, I can’t comment further on the fishing, either. My apologies.
One last thing about Ranguana: if I were doing it again, I’d go with Kevin Modera Guide Services. They have a deal where they take you out to Ranguana via Laughingbird Caye, and they will cook for you, as well as take you to the best snorkeling, fishing and the best beaches. In hindsight, this would definitely be the way to go.
The final stop on our tour was Little Water Caye. Now I forgot to mention one very important thing about Ranguana, and that is the complete and total absence of biting bugs. In fact, I realize now that I’ve neglected to include this topic as to each hotel I’ve discussed thus far. Allow me to remedy: Jaguar Paw, no bugs (bats eat ‘em). Pook’s Hill, some mosquitoes in the woods, but none in your room, at least not if you keep the doors closed as I did; I suffered maybe three bites during my walk to the river there, and this without bug spray. Tikal, very few bugs; the only ones I saw were in the restaurant across from the main entrance, as well as one lonesome mosquito in our room after dark. Ranguana Caye, no bugs. None. Zip. Nada. So when I climbed into the boat to Little Water Caye, I didn’t even consider applying bug spray. Stupid me! Upon our arrival, I suffered thirty-five or so bites (yes, I counted them, they itched like hell) and all within the first twenty minutes of our stay. The sandflies descended upon me in a swarm…and I’m not exaggerating. To be fair, this was partially because there wasn’t a breath of wind or breeze to be found on Little Water Caye that particular day, and without breeze, the bugs are MUCH worse. Upon application of some good, strong deet (all over the entire body, don’t miss any spots because the bugs will find ‘em, even under your arms!) the problem lessened considerably, and as soon as I got into the habit of always being coated in bug spray morning, noon, and night, I had no problems whatsoever. Soon the breeze kicked up, and then the little buggers were much scarcer. With a breeze, the island proved a paradise, what with the darling cabins over the water, the swaying palms, and the great food provided by Karl, the owner. As with Ranguana, there were limited lights provided by solar panels that were perfectly adequate for my needs, anyway, and great showers with a roomy bathroom and fixtures in good working order. Also the same as Ranguana were the mattresses, which were too thin of a foam to do much good. Just like I did on the previous island, I put the single bed’s mattress on top of the double bed, and thus had a VERY comfy bed and a good night’s sleep, lulled by the sound of the waves coming in beneath the floor. These cabins are right over the water, complete with little damselfish and needlefish for entertainment, and the island’s reef is maybe twenty steps away from your door. Really cool, I tell you. The porch is equipped with two comfortable chairs, and the view of Hatchet Caye and the Silk Cayes is amazing.
Then there’s the snorkeling. Within the first two minutes of getting into the water, I saw what must have been a sixty-pound tarpon. I’m not up on my coral names, but I think it was elkhorn coral that made up the bulk of the reef, huge formations of it, threaded through with giant schools of blue tangs, parrot fish, and the occasional barracuda. I saw one great big fellow who could’ve easily taken a chunk out of me if he’d a mind to. Must’ve been thirty pounds, at least! And on the flats, I saw bonefish, although I couldn’t catch them to save my life. Tried, though. Saw some jacks, too, and caught one barracuda, so I’m guessing the fishing here is pretty good for those more serious about it than me.
Have I covered everything? Think so. We flew home via the Lobsterfest, which was just getting going when we passed through, so I’m afraid I can’t comment much on that, either. Oh, and the sandflies were terrible during the few hours we spent in Placencia, too.
If anyone has any questions about the hotels and places I’ve tried to describe, I’d love to answer as best I can, so feel free to drop me a line, all right?
Hope I’ve helped someone out there with vacation decisions!
Sincerely,
Jill
Added on Date: 02:48:13 7/02/99
Hi Jill...
You have written what has to be one of the Top 2 trip reports I have ever read. I am sure your details will answer many questions for those needing information. Thanks for the time and effort!
Denny Shane
: Hello all! Jill here, back from Belize to file a report about hotels, snorkeling and such on the off chance that I can help someone make a decision about where to stay, what to do, etc. Let me start by saying that everyone we met was extremely nice, helpful and sincerely friendly, and even though I feel I must be as honest as possible in this report, I cannot stress enough how much I enjoyed the company of all the people I met on this trip—thanks, everybody!
: That said, here’s my report (which includes stuff about Jaguar Paw, Pook’s Hill, the Tikal Inn, Ranguana Caye and Little Water Caye):
: Jaguar Paw is everything everyone said it would be. The road in is rough and exciting, the setting amid tall, cliff-like hills and semi-old growth forest is beautiful, the rooms are cleverly decorated, the food is fantastic, and the service is excellent. In response to someone’s recent posting about there not being much wildlife at Jaguar Paw, I must say that I saw more animals at Jaguar Paw than anywhere else save Tikal. Chika the howler monkey, if a bit standoffish, was nevertheless always there for the viewing, as was Willie the coati, who helped himself into the restaurant through the pushdoor and scampered through the guests on his way upstairs. Personally, I loved having my own set of guard dogs outside my door day and night (Henry, Chicken Dog, Snake and Shadow), and it was great fun when they went with us on the cave-tubing trip. I also saw toads, bats, fish in the river, and some sort of red flycatcher-like bird that kept battling with himself in my hotel room window. But despite all these great things, the best part of Jaguar Paw was the people. Cy Young was forever milling about the restaurant, bar and front desk area, dropping amusing comments here and there. I had a wonderful time chatting with Donna about Willie’s tendencies to bring “presents” before coming into the house. Emir (not sure how to spell his name) who tends bar, fixes things, sings wonderfully and runs tours, is a great guy to talk to, as is Karina, who likes Al Pacino and will wash your laundry for a mere four dollars. Alfredo at the front desk deserves some sort of award (for which helpful thing he did exactly, I’m not sure, but I’ll pin it down). Everyone—and I mean everyone—was personable and wonderful in his or her own way, and this made my vacation there almost like a stay with good friends. Oh, and before I move on, I should say that everything in the two different rooms I stayed in (the “night” room and the “parrot” room) worked perfectly. Good water pressure, toilets in fine working order, and ice-cold air conditioning. My only tiny little gripe might be the firmness of the beds (too firm)...but I'm weird that way.
: The cave-tubing tour at Jaguar Paw is not to be missed. A hike of about an hour takes you to the mouth of a cave, where you slip the headlamps on, slip into the inner tube you’ve been carrying, and float leisurely downstream for what seems like hours. It’s quite relaxing, unless a gaggle of British paratroopers happen to be with you. Then the screaming and shouting and general rough-housing can leave a person a bit deaf. And although I didn’t see the Crystal Cave myself, my travelling companion said it was fantastic, though difficult to get to. I’ll take his word for it.
: Also during my stay at Jaguar Paw we went to the zoo. Cy said to visit in the afternoon, near closing time, because the animals are getting antsy for their dinners, and this turned out to be true. The black jaguar paced and paced inches away from us. Little foxes posed, and just about the only animal we didn’t see was the kinkajou, which was understandably asleep in its burrow. Loved the zoo, although it was exceptionally hot on the day we visited, and the lack of trees and shading was a little disappointing to this born-and-bred Northwesterner.
: One more note about Jaguar Paw: the website says that breakfast is included in the rate, but this is only partially true. When we arrived, we were given breakfast menus, and no one said a word about what was or wasn’t included in the room rate. We assumed (stupidly) that we could have anything on the menu. Instead, I guess the room rate includes only toast and coffee or something similar, and after four days, this little surprise added a substantial amount to our overall bill. Lesson: ask if you’re not sure.
: Moving right along…Yute Expeditions picked us up from Jaguar Paw at 7:30am for the drive to Tikal. Phillip, who drove us in a roomy, air conditioned Jimmy, was great for pointing out sights along the way, explaining things about the flora and fauna and people we were seeing roadside, and telling jokes about the toilet-paper tycoon who was “really wiping up.” The drive didn’t seem all that long because it was so interesting, and soon we were checking into the Tikal Inn at the park. This hotel, though perfectly adequate, was not as nice as the Jungle Lodge according to practically everyone I talked to, and if you stay at the Tikal Inn, beware the rooms closest the kitchen. The staff comes in at 5am, and sound carries easily with the all-open mesh windows in your cabanas. Also, there were bugs in my bed (understandable with the window situation). Other than this, the room was clean and everything worked. And the pool was nice.
: Tikal was like any other Maya ruin I’ve visited…NOT! Our guide, Louis, actually knew what he was talking about (many guides in Mexico don’t), and I was endlessly entertained not only by his stories about the various people buried at Tikal, but by his conspiracy theories, UFO tales, and assuredness that the world is going to end ala Nostrodamus. But don’t be fooled by these things—the guy knows his Maya stuff. Phillip (who drove us) said that Louis has trained almost all the guides at Tikal. I’d guess this might very well be true.
: The site itself was beautiful, of course, just like all the photographs you’ve seen, but what surprised me was that it wasn’t that far to walk. I’m a wimp and I tend to faint in the heat, but Louis took our tour very slow, and before I knew it, we’d walked to the far end of the site to the tallest pyramid (temple IV?). The other thing you should know before visiting Tikal is that the park employees, if asked nicely, will drive you around the park for a tip of a few dollars. Knowing this could make all the difference in the world for someone with disabilities, older folks, or even just for ninnies like me! It lets a person save his or her strength for climbing the pyramids, right? (Well, that’s my excuse.)
: The museums at Tikal are also a must-see, particularly the one with the pottery in it—gives you a chance to see stuff for real that you’ve only seen in books. There’s also a tomb recreation with all the jade and funerary pieces. Pretty cool. And I can’t end my segment about Tikal without mentioning the animals in the park—to me, the best part about the whole experience! Coatis were EVERYWHERE. Troops of them roam the park with their tails high in the air, their noses to the ground in milling amid the tourists. We also saw spider monkeys, paca, toucans, and a family of tiny foxes that had no fear of people whatsoever. Seeing these animals up close and personal was the highlight of the trip for me.
: To continue our tour….It was too overcast to see either the sunset or sunrise, so to bed early we went, then had a second morning at the pyramids before climbing back in the Jimmy for the trip to Pook’s Hill.
: Going to Pook’s Hill was, for me, like visiting very dear, old friends. Vicki Snaddon greeted me with such warmth and hospitality that instantly I felt as if I’d known her all my life—she’s that kind of fantastic lady. The road to her place was even bumpier and longer, if possible, than the road to Jaguar Paw, but equally filled with jungle mystery and suspense—how much further? Look at those trees! Will the truck make it up this hill? The view from the lounge area is fantastic, with the cohunes and the view across the tree tops quite lovely, and the rooms are cute little thatch numbers with great showers, although the beds are again a tad hard for my taste. My room came complete with baby lizards on the doorstep (the size of a thumbnail) and some sort of beetle with large, fluorescent-green spots on his head that glowed just like those sticks, you know? Fireflies lit up the sky at night, everywhere, even in the room, an owl called at dusk from right next to the main building, and the bird song in the morning was to die for! The only possible bad thing I can say about Pook’s Hill is that I wouldn’t drink the water there. I can’t say for sure, but I think this was the source of my bout with Montezuma, as it was the only water I came into contact with on my trip (I had no ice anywhere, and I even brushed my teeth with bottled water)—either it was Vicki’s table water, or an inadvertent gulp during my swim in the stream. Either way, be careful and play it safe!
: At Pook’s Hill, they offer jungle walks and horsebackriding, but Ray (who handles the horses) was gone during my stay, and I was too tired from Tikal to do much hiking. The little I saw on my walk to the river was fantastic. Great cohunes, cooing doves, a picturesque stream crossed by a rope bridge, even a snake lounging in the water. The jungle was even more beautiful and lush than at Jaguar Paw. From horseback or hiking, I’d imagine it’d be heaven!
: From Pook’s Hill to Placencia, we took the 11:10am Tropic flight from the International Airport to that tiny little airport way down south (with a stop in Dangriga between). Placencia didn’t do much for me, I have to admit. Can’t say exactly why, but it just didn’t hold the charm for me that San Pedro does, nor did the beach tickle my fancy in any way whatsoever. It didn’t help when the taxi that was supposed to be waiting for us wasn’t. Joy Leslie of Ranguana Lodge had forgotten to send it, which wouldn’t have been so bad if she hadn’t loused up the rest of our arrangements, too. I understand that things work very differently in Placencia, but when you’re putting your life in these people’s hands as they take you out to a tiny spot on the reef on a blustery day, starting off so badly doesn’t give one a sense of confidence. Joy had known I was coming in at around noon, and she’d assured me a taxi would be waiting with an ice chest to take us to the grocery store to buy provisions for our stay at Ranguana Caye (where you have to cook your own meals). She never once mentioned in our e-mails that noon wouldn’t be a good time because the stores close until 1:30pm or 2pm, and that we wouldn’t be able to get out to Ranguana until closer to 3pm, when the wind came up (and it wasn’t as safe). If I’d been apprised of these things, I would have happily made my arrangements around her suggestions. Oh well. When we got the ice chest, too, I failed to notice that it didn’t come equipped with that most essential of things—a plug. Thus, even though we secured the very last bag of ice in Placencia when the store opened, it had melted completely by the time we’d reached Ranguana. Poo.
: Despite all my worries, though, our captain, Eddie Leslie, was a superb seaman and had me safe and secure on Ranguana Caye within an hour’s time. When Lan Sluder says the ride is bumpy out to these remote cayes, believe him. One of the roughest rides of my life, but Ranguana was worth it nonetheless, and I can’t stress enough how lovely, peaceful, and divine Ranguana Caye really is. The cabins are perfectly designed to catch the breeze, with beds several feet off the floor to do the same, and a wonderful porch from which to contemplate the grackles’ antics and the pelicans wheeling overhead. There’s also a dog here, Scrappy, and a gorgeous red bunny that comes out at night to root around in the skimpy grass. And lizards, always lizards, who scamper across the countertops when you go into your kitchen, and who also like to wiggle into coke bottles left out on the shelves. They wake you up at dawn with a chirpy little chorus of lizard song that’s quite neat to listen to.
: The bathrooms, toilets and showers at Ranguana were clean, private and well-looked after by Jean Leslie, who lives there and reads romance novels (if anyone cares to slip a few extra into their bags for her and Mary Toy at Kevin Modera Guide Services in Placencia, it’d be appreciated, I hear). The stoves in the cabins are easy to use, and the kitchen comes well appointed with just about everything but a can opener—beware, as only one of our two cabins had one. Also, be advised that if the wind blows hard (as it did during our visit), those little cabanas can stand up to A LOT of pounding. Lightning, hard rain and gusts that I swear were up to 40mph scared the bejesus out of me, but in the morning, Mr. Leslie informed me that these same cabins had withstood Mitch, so he must’ve built them pretty darned well. Just so you know.
: The snorkeling from Ranguana I can’t really comment on, I’m afraid. Mr. Leslie and Co. were pretty vague as to where the good snorkeling was located, and as Ranguana is out in the middle of nowhere near the open sea and I’m a ninny (as before mentioned) with a nonsnorkeling travelling companion, I didn’t feel comfortable going outside of the reef. I didn’t know what the currents were like, if it were dangerous, or if I’d be able to get back inside to the island again, so I snorkeled only inside the reef, which was vastly disappointing. The outside was probably great (if I’d gone), but you’ll have to confirm this with someone braver.
: I caught one snapper from the leeward side of the island, and this on the advice of one interesting character named Shaky (or at least I thought this was his name). As the snapper took the only lure I had which seemed to catch fish, and as I’m not a serious fisherwoman, I can’t comment further on the fishing, either. My apologies.
: One last thing about Ranguana: if I were doing it again, I’d go with Kevin Modera Guide Services. They have a deal where they take you out to Ranguana via Laughingbird Caye, and they will cook for you, as well as take you to the best snorkeling, fishing and the best beaches. In hindsight, this would definitely be the way to go.
: The final stop on our tour was Little Water Caye. Now I forgot to mention one very important thing about Ranguana, and that is the complete and total absence of biting bugs. In fact, I realize now that I’ve neglected to include this topic as to each hotel I’ve discussed thus far. Allow me to remedy: Jaguar Paw, no bugs (bats eat ‘em). Pook’s Hill, some mosquitoes in the woods, but none in your room, at least not if you keep the doors closed as I did; I suffered maybe three bites during my walk to the river there, and this without bug spray. Tikal, very few bugs; the only ones I saw were in the restaurant across from the main entrance, as well as one lonesome mosquito in our room after dark. Ranguana Caye, no bugs. None. Zip. Nada. So when I climbed into the boat to Little Water Caye, I didn’t even consider applying bug spray. Stupid me! Upon our arrival, I suffered thirty-five or so bites (yes, I counted them, they itched like hell) and all within the first twenty minutes of our stay. The sandflies descended upon me in a swarm…and I’m not exaggerating. To be fair, this was partially because there wasn’t a breath of wind or breeze to be found on Little Water Caye that particular day, and without breeze, the bugs are MUCH worse. Upon application of some good, strong deet (all over the entire body, don’t miss any spots because the bugs will find ‘em, even under your arms!) the problem lessened considerably, and as soon as I got into the habit of always being coated in bug spray morning, noon, and night, I had no problems whatsoever. Soon the breeze kicked up, and then the little buggers were much scarcer. With a breeze, the island proved a paradise, what with the darling cabins over the water, the swaying palms, and the great food provided by Karl, the owner. As with Ranguana, there were limited lights provided by solar panels that were perfectly adequate for my needs, anyway, and great showers with a roomy bathroom and fixtures in good working order. Also the same as Ranguana were the mattresses, which were too thin of a foam to do much good. Just like I did on the previous island, I put the single bed’s mattress on top of the double bed, and thus had a VERY comfy bed and a good night’s sleep, lulled by the sound of the waves coming in beneath the floor. These cabins are right over the water, complete with little damselfish and needlefish for entertainment, and the island’s reef is maybe twenty steps away from your door. Really cool, I tell you. The porch is equipped with two comfortable chairs, and the view of Hatchet Caye and the Silk Cayes is amazing.
: Then there’s the snorkeling. Within the first two minutes of getting into the water, I saw what must have been a sixty-pound tarpon. I’m not up on my coral names, but I think it was elkhorn coral that made up the bulk of the reef, huge formations of it, threaded through with giant schools of blue tangs, parrot fish, and the occasional barracuda. I saw one great big fellow who could’ve easily taken a chunk out of me if he’d a mind to. Must’ve been thirty pounds, at least! And on the flats, I saw bonefish, although I couldn’t catch them to save my life. Tried, though. Saw some jacks, too, and caught one barracuda, so I’m guessing the fishing here is pretty good for those more serious about it than me.
: Have I covered everything? Think so. We flew home via the Lobsterfest, which was just getting going when we passed through, so I’m afraid I can’t comment much on that, either. Oh, and the sandflies were terrible during the few hours we spent in Placencia, too.
: If anyone has any questions about the hotels and places I’ve tried to describe, I’d love to answer as best I can, so feel free to drop me a line, all right?
: Hope I’ve helped someone out there with vacation decisions!
: Sincerely,
: Jill
Added on Date: 04:24:38 7/02/99
I am going to be visiting Placencia in Aug/Sept. and am thinking of staying at Inn at Robert's Grove. Any input that you could give me would be greating appreciated. I haven't seen much in print about this hotel. Thank you !
Added on Date: 17:00:51 7/02/99
Belizeans of Mestizo/Hispanic descent needed as interviewees for research on Belizeans in Los Angeles. U.S. raised 2nd and 1.5 generation also needed.
For more information I can be reached at:
jeromefs@scf.usc.edu
Jerome Straughan
University of Southern California
Department of Sociology
3620 Vermont Avenue
Kaprielian Hall 352
Los Angeles, CA 90089-2539
(213)740-3533 Mon to Fri 9:00AM to 5:00PM
Added on Date: 17:49:17 7/02/99
"The Inn" is pretty upscale for Placencia. It's beautiful; if you are into that kinda thing. I've stayed at Cozy Corner for local flavor.
Added on Date: 20:51:15 7/02/99
: "The Inn" is pretty upscale for Placencia. It's beautiful; if you are into that kinda thing. I've stayed at Cozy Corner for local flavor.
cozy corner roberts is alittle out of town very upscale very nice say hi to robert for me
Added on Date: 08:51:35 7/03/99
kevin do you ever go to the flamboyant i think we met there yes or no
Added on Date: 09:04:52 7/03/99
Would appreciate any info on these accomodations. The price is right, how about the place.
Thanks
Added on Date: 10:28:19 7/03/99
Inn at Robert's Grove is the most upscale place on the peninsula. Attractive (not huge, but nice) A/C rooms, beautiful pool, beach is nice though not the best on the peninsula, tennis courts, very good restaurant. We get nothing but good reports about this place.
--Lan Sluder
Belize First Magazine
Added on Date: 11:55:39 7/03/99
Going on holiday there in January and trying to find info about the people etc entertainment etc
Added on Date: 12:05:32 7/03/99
: Would appreciate any info on these accomodations. The price is right, how about the place.
: Thanksitis a wonderful place to live. my friend wendy livedtherefor several months
Added on Date: 15:52:20 7/03/99
I am going to travel to Belize ,all the info I have about the place I am going to is 13.5 miles from the airport on the northern highway. I am from Costa Rica, and I need to rent an apartment ( 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms,a/c, cable, telephone,patio/terrace, semifurnished.( CLOSE TO THIS ZONE)
I am interested in have somebody who can help us whit this information and during my stay asap.
Added on Date: 21:41:01 7/04/99
We are arriving in Belize on 09 August and will go straight onto Ambrgris Caye where we have booked only one night in anticipation of spending one or two nights on a liveaboard going to and from the Blue Hole. Does anyone have any suggestions on a boat going out to the Hole, and rates attached to the trip? Also when we go back to the mainland we have no itinerary other than we would like to see some of the ruins and spend some time in the jungle areas. Has anyone any suggestions on things to do, places to go, and the costs for them? We are working on a budget, but would like to see all that we can in the nine or ten days inland that we have. Thanks for any input!
Added on Date: 23:37:30 7/04/99
Dear Tony and Kathy,
As I mentioned in my trip report a little down this page, I REALLY enjoyed Jaguar Paw. The cave-float was one of the best things I did on my recent trip, and I'd highly, highly recommend doing it--whether with Jaguar Paw or Ian Anderson. The other tour I would recommend is the trip up the river to Lamanai. Not only do you get to see a lot of countryside, but it seemed that every bend in the river revealed another hawk or kingfisher or wading bird of some type, and at the ruins there were howler monkeys and coati on the day I was there. Nevermind that the view from the top of the pyramid over the lagoon is fantastic. If I only had a couple of days on the mainland (and I wasn't up for the trip to Tikal, which is, of course, awesome), I would suggest doing these two things if nothing else.
Have fun wherever you decide to go,
Jill
Added on Date: 03:57:50 7/05/99
I would be curious to here from any one with imformation on this resort .I 'm thinking of staying there,and any comments would be appeciated
Added on Date: 07:54:34 7/05/99
: We are arriving in Belize on 09 August and will go straight onto Ambrgris Caye where we have booked only one night in anticipation of spending one or two nights on a liveaboard going to and from the Blue Hole. Does anyone have any suggestions on a boat going out to the Hole, and rates attached to the trip? Also when we go back to the mainland we have no itinerary other than we would like to see some of the ruins and spend some time in the jungle areas. Has anyone any suggestions on things to do, places to go, and the costs for them? We are working on a budget, but would like to see all that we can in the nine or ten days inland that we have. Thanks for any input!
The only live on board that I know of that does overnights to the Lighthouse Atoll and Blue Hole would the the "Offshore Express" operating from the Coral Beach Dive Shop. Departs early morning and does a couple of dives then overnights on the north end of LH where you can sleep in bunk on boat, hammock, tent, or pad on beach, your choice. Price includes food, snacks, soft drinks, and diving. Should do three dives on the second day before returning to San Pedro. Can be weather dependent and sometimes this time of the year they have a minimum number in order to make the trip. I cannot give you a price for this and have it be accurate, so contact them as soon as you arrive and check on availability and price. Have fun diving!!!!
Added on Date: 08:17:59 7/05/99
Dan, I posted this reply on another message board for someone else. Hope it helps. Jim
I believe "The village" was formerly called Mayas Katut and is very nice and quiet. It is located in San Pablo, primarily a residential area on the lagoon side and can be rather hot and humid at times. It can be quite inconvenient with regard to the beach and most hotel areas unless you have transport or like to walk in very hot conditions. If you are considering visiting during Sept. to Nov. you might want to consider walking as roads to San Pablo can get very mucky and only 4WD vehicles can get through on some days.
If you want to be on Mar Del Tumbo Beach, being one of the best beaches on Ambergris Caye, and enjoy the advantage of a beautiful freshwater pool in a tropical courtyard setting, I would suggest the Banana Beach Resort.
It is located directly on that beach which is, according to a taxi odometer, 1-1/2 miles south of San Pedro Town center.
The Resort has one bedroom suites with great views of the Caribbean, cable TV, very comfortable queen sofa bed in the living room, full modern kitchens with all the latest appliances, overhead fans in the livingroom and bedroom, air conditioned, telephone, room safes for valuables, after office hours security, bicycles available, a dock used for tour pick ups, and a very friendly and helpful staff who can set up tours, snorkelling or diving, and air transfers for you. The rates are very reasonable for what you get here. One more thing...I have never been in a cleaner resort anywhere. Have a look at their website and judge for yourself: Banana Beach Resort
: I would be curious to here from any one with imformation on this resort .I 'm thinking of staying there,and any comments would be appeciated
Added on Date: 09:59:19 7/05/99
: I would be curious to here from any one with imformation on this resort .I 'm thinking of staying there,and any comments would be appeciated
Jim hit it right on the head. If you want to be in that area the Banana Beach Hotel is as clean and new as you can find with a beautiful pool and great view of the best beach on the island
Greg
Added on Date: 12:56:43 7/05/99
: : There is a 9-hole course on Caye Chapel, just south of Caye Caulker. Very controversial, in many ways -- politically, economically and environmentally. There are some private holes off the Northern Highway, but the Caye Chapel course is all you can play now. A couple of courses are in the blue sky stage.
: Thanks for the response. Can you give me any more details about this course on Caye Chapel? If nothing else, who could I contact about playing there? I doubt I will go there during this vacation but maybe in the future.
: : --Lan Sluder
I played at Caye Chapple a couple of years ago before it was even remotely finished. They loaned us all of the equipment and a cart. It is a long way from a great golf course but definately worth the experience. Watch for the water hazards(aligators)and have fun.
Greg
Added on Date: 13:16:56 7/05/99
Dan,
The Village (formerly Mayas Katut) is not on the beach and it would not be in my top 25 hotels on Ambergris Caye.
Here are my suggestions on some of the best resorts, condotels and budget hotels on the island.
--Lan Sluder
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Hotels/Resorts
Caribbean Villas
Not the most luxurious hotel, no beach to speak of, no pool, but friendly management by Wil and Susan Lala and staff makes all the difference in this comfortable apartment-style resort south of San Pedro Town.
Cayo Espanto
Small, upscale development on private island a few minutes west of Ambergris.
Mata Chica
Trendy, beautifully designed new spot far up on North Ambergris. One of Ambergris’ most romantic restaurants. No pool. Nice beach. Not for everybody.
Sunbreeze
A recent makeover including pool has turned this Holiday Inn-style motel into one of the better, and best-located, choices on the island. Big rooms, with all the modcons. Italian restaurant and Gaz Cooper’s dive shop on site.
Victoria House
Lovely beach-front setting about two miles south of town; potential, not always realized, of being one of the best resorts in Belize; variety of accommodations, some very pricey.
Ramon’s
Extremely popular spot, especially for first timers to Belize. With 60 units, more crowded than we’d like, but still retains its thatch-and-sand ambiance. Beautiful new pool. Best beach in or near San Pedro Town. Rates are surprisingly high.
Coconuts
Friendly, casual spot with big attractive rooms, good beach bar, south of town.
Tropica
Nice rooms in four-plex buildings near Banyan Bay. New pool.
The Tides
New, locally owned hotel with a dive orientation, at the north end of town.
Caribe Island Resort
Increasingly popular for those seeking a full-service small resort. South end.
Capricorn
Opened in 1996, this small spot on north Ambergris has three cabanas right on the beach, plus an excellent restaurant.
Captain Morgan’s Retreat
In many ways, this is what visitors to Belize come looking for — thatched cabañas on a stretch of beach; on the north end of Ambergris Caye, next to the Essene Way. Large pool.
Changes in Latitudes
Canadian-run small inn near the Belize Yacht Club bills itself as a B&B. Smallish rooms, but with recent upgrades.
Ambergris Condotels
For families or groups, Ambergris Caye’s condotels — individually owned condos with units offered like hotel rooms by a management company —and suites hotels are hard to beat. They offer more room for not much more money than regular hotels.
The Palms
Well-located on the water just south of town, with attractive condo apartments, and a nice small pool. Not to be confused with the Royal Palm, a timeshare.
Villas at Banyan Bay
Expanding condo development about south of town, beyond walking distance, with some of the largest and most luxe apartment units in Belize. Nice pool and beach area. Units are fully air conditioned and have jacuzzis.
Banana Beach
New in late 1998, this condo project by the people from Coconuts has Yucatán- style architecture and a pool. South of town beyond walking distance.
Mayan Princess
Convenient “mid-town” location on the water. Very good value in a suites hotel. No pool, though.
Belizean Reef Suites
Well-located at the south edge of town. Attractive units. No pool.
Belize Yacht Club
Within walking distance south of town, Mexican-style two-story units with a beautiful pool. New meeting facilities.
Casa Caribe
One- and two-bedroom units on North Ambergris. Nice pool and beach area.
Woody’s/Corona del Mar
Attractive suites south of town. No pool.
Casa Solana
Nicely furnished, with attractive rates. No pool.
Emerald Reef
Very nicely designed and furnished, at north end of town. No pool.
Coral Bay
New suites spot south. No pool.
Paradise Villas
Florida-style condos at the north of town, adjacent to the Paradise Hotel, with a pool and small beach.
Budget Hotels on Ambergris
Yes, you can get a clean room on the island for under US$25 a night, even in-season. Some rooms at the following hotels cost more than that, but all offer value for the money.
Ruby’s
The clear top choice for the budget/value traveler. Choose from new A/C units or cheaper original units.
Hideaway Sports Hotel
One of the few budget places in Belize with a pool. A short walk from the water. Restaurant. Variety of rooms. Some recent improvements and upgrades.
Lily’s
Recently upgraded a bit, with A/C in some units.
Barrier Reef Hotel
In a colonial-era building across Front Street near Big Daddy’s and Tarzan’s. Pool and restaurant.
Hotel Del Rio
Variety of rooms, under new ownership.
San Pedrano
A favorite with European travelers, on Front Street with a breezy veranda.
Martha’s
Not on the water, but clean basic rooms at a good price.
Added on Date: 13:17:45 7/05/99
Does anybody happen to know when the Bellfest in Brooklyn New York is?
Added on Date: 14:58:15 7/05/99
After months of research on the internet, I have scheduled my first trip to Belize with a group called IZE. Their website was quite enticing and it seemed they could provide both the jungle (Blue Creek) and reef (South Water Caye) experiences that seem to represent this beautiful country. My wife and I, along with another couple, will be in Belize the last week in Sept. '99. I was hoping someone who frequents this chatboard might have some insight, and perhaps suggestions, regarding our trip. This could include former guests of IZE, current staff, or even locals familiar with this company. I am an adventurous man, with a healthy inner-child, who loves to explore, learn, and fish (both offshore and surf) and would sincerely appreciate any feedback. Excited in Denver.
Added on Date: 16:26:28 7/05/99
I've never done an IZE trip but they have a good reputation, and they have interesting choices of locations in Belize.
--Lan Sluder
Belize First Magazine
The # 1 magazine on travel, life and retirement on the Caribbean Coast
Added on Date: 19:38:59 7/05/99
: Hey this is Princess. I'm looking for a few e-mail/chat partners. Most of my Belizean friends have returned to Belize. Then I moved away from the area, and now miss so much of the culture. If you'd like to make a new friend my e-mail address is listed. Hope to hear from you soon.
Added on Date: 22:26:03 7/05/99
My husband and I are departing for Mexico on Jul 9 and thinking about driving through Belize. We are interested in archaeology and I like pottery of old traditional designs and traditional crafts. Any info on safety of driving (have heard reports that robberies are frequent)? Actual cost range of accommodations--budget type (a dollar figure would be helpful--when people say "moderate" that is relative--we have no idea!)
Appreciate any info from anyone who has driven and stayed in Belize on their own.
Added on Date: 22:59:59 7/05/99
: My husband and I are departing for Mexico on Jul 9 and thinking about driving through Belize. We are interested in archaeology and I like pottery of old traditional designs and traditional crafts. Any info on safety of driving (have heard reports that robberies are frequent)? Actual cost range of accommodations--budget type (a dollar figure would be helpful--when people say "moderate" that is relative--we have no idea!)
: Appreciate any info from anyone who has driven and stayed in Belize on their own.
Added on Date: 02:08:49 7/06/99
Don't listen to uninformed reports! I've driven virtually every mile of road in Belize, paved and unpaved, and have never had a problem. Belize City has a serious crime problem, but out in the country the biggest problem you're likely to have is a flat tire.
Safe, clean budget accommodations are available in Belize for around US$20 a night.
Belize, once the heart of the Maya culture, has literally hundreds of Maya sites. Even at the most popular ones, such as Lamanai, Caracol, Xunantunich, Cahal Pech, etc., you may be the only party there ... unlike in the Yucatan with its hordes of Cancun tourists doing day trips.
Check any guidebook or any of the hundreds of Belize Web sites for more information on specifics of hotels and Maya sites.
Belize, however, does not have the handicraft tradition of neighboring Mexico and Guatemala. You won't find too much contemporary pottery or other quality crafts, though some Belize woodcarving is of high standard. The National Handicraft Centre in Belize City is one good place to see what is available.
--Lan Sluder
Belize First Magazine
Added on Date: 10:23:48 7/06/99
: LOOKING FOR TRIP REPORTS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TO EITHER RESORTS.
: THANKS DENNIS
Added on Date: 12:02:47 7/06/99
: LOOKING FOR TRIP REPORTS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TO EITHER RESORTS.
: THANKS DENNIS
If those are your two choices, you need to choose Coral Bay Villas. We were suppose to stay at Casa Caribe two weeks ago....but had to relocate...no electricity..pool was cracked and drained....no wind surfers or sea kayaks..and the list goes on.
Added on Date: 12:05:09 7/06/99
: After months of research on the internet, I have scheduled my first trip to Belize with a group called IZE. Their website was quite enticing and it seemed they could provide both the jungle (Blue Creek) and reef (South Water Caye) experiences that seem to represent this beautiful country. My wife and I, along with another couple, will be in Belize the last week in Sept. '99. I was hoping someone who frequents this chatboard might have some insight, and perhaps suggestions, regarding our trip. This could include former guests of IZE, current staff, or even locals familiar with this company. I am an adventurous man, with a healthy inner-child, who loves to explore, learn, and fish (both offshore and surf) and would sincerely appreciate any feedback. Excited in Denver.
You could not have picked a better trip.IZE is great there camps are just the best.What blue creek are you talking about? The one in P.G.comes out of the mountain and is great for swiming,there camp is right there.Your going to have lots of fun.
Added on Date: 16:33:05 7/06/99
This is the editoral from the amandala newspaper and my response follows:
Amandala:
Editorial: Biting the Barry hand
The Dean Barrow-controlled UDP newspaper, The Guardian, launched a sensational attack on business mogul Barry Bowen in its issue published on Thursday of this week.
Essentially, The Guardian is claiming that Bowen will receive a $60 million loan from the Government of Belize in return for party donations during the 1998 general election campaign, and especially for putting up more than half a million dollars in cash to "settle" the Sankey-Bradley PUP situation in the Queen's Square constituency. The Guardian is claiming that Sankey received money to step down and Bradley received money to step up - Bowen money.
The UDP newspaper paid Bowen the respect of having him issue a quoted denial, whether accurate or not, in the text of the same front page article, entitled BARRY INVOLVED IN CAMPAIGN SCANDAL?
Assuredly, the PUP and Mr. Bowen are well able to take care of themselves, but this newspaper must comment on the irony of the Barrow-countenanced attack on his former chief patron. It was Barry Bowen, you see, whose money assisted materially in creating the Barrow myth and legend in the 1984 general election. Who do you think paid for those huge Barrow campaign posters, printed in colour in El Salvador, which were on billboards all over Queen's Square in 1984? Dean Barrow benefited from the fact that his Queen's Square opponent was Ralph Fonseca, with whom Bowen had had a bitter financial struggle a year or two before. Barry had a score to settle with Ralph. Fonseca had been an employee of Barry Bowen's Belikin in the early 1980's. So was Michael Finnegan, a Bowen employee during the 1980's. You will note that Finnegan never attacks Fonseca: they became buddies during their Bowen stint.
Throughout the 1970's, Barry Bowen enjoyed the rare distinction of being good friends with both UDP Leader Dean Lindo and the PUP's Said Musa, even though Lindo and Musa had fought two savage battles (1974 and 1979) against each other in the Fort George constituency. Ensconced safely in the chambers of Uncle Dean's law firm, Barrow benefited immensely from Lindo's relationship with Bowen when he stepped out into electoral politics in 1983. Barry Bowen, we will say it plainly, was Dean Barrow's financial godfather.
Around 1988, Barrow changed patrons. He became the beneficiary of financial backing from the Santiago Castillo millions. This was in return for changing what allegiance he may have had left to uncle Dean, and giving it to UDP Leader Manuel Esquivel. This was why in 1988, Barrow had to go against Rufus X in Belize Rural North, even though both Dean Lindo and Michael Finnegan supported Rufus. Sam Rhaburn, Rufus' target in UDP Belize Rural North, had been an employee at the Albert Street office of San Cas accountant, Net Vasquez, and was a Vasquez and San Cas loyalist.
It is important to know these 1988 events, because ever since then, Dean Barrow is almost completely independent of Dean Lindo in his judgements and decisions. High level leaders of the PUP have had a hard time reading and understanding Barrow, because they have assumed that he has continued acting for and on behalf of uncle Dean. This is not so. In fact, shortly after the 1989 UDP general election defeat, Barrow and Rodwell Williams took some of uncle Dean's accounts and went down Albert Street to form their own law firm - Barrow and Williams.
In the last few weeks, this newspaper has been zeroing in on Dean Barrow because he has been obdurate in his hatred of KREM Radio and the Kremandala Raiders. This issue has forced us into rhetorical confrontation with the Hon. Barrow, because we cannot, for the life of us, see Barrow's position as anything other than personal, as opposed to professional.
Over the years, it has become evident that Barry Bowen's approach to business is more development-oriented than that of the Santiago Castillo group, which is concerned only with profits. Barrow's open declaration of war against Bowen will have political/financial implications down the road. The Barrow decision to cross the Rubicon was based, we think, on a short term consideration - the burning desire to eliminate the Dickie Bradley danger in Queen's Square.
The results of the 1998 election suggest that the voters of Belize are thinking that the Bowen approach may be more beneficial to Belize than the buy-and-sell of the Castillo group. One thing about the San Cas group, however, is that they are wealthy and safe. They do not take chances or run risks. So, although it is never a wise thing to buck Mr. Bowen, the Hon. Barrow, a cautious and conservative chap, felt that the comfort zone provided by the massive liquidity of the grupo San Cas, more than made up for the dangers of BARRY INVOLVED IN CAMPAIGN SCANDAL?
My Response:
Sent to the editor of the Amandala Newspaper, UDP, PUP, Reporter and Belize Times
I've been tuning into Belize news or anything that has Belize on it for the past 2 1/2 years. While doing so I have read many of the confrontational articles you have written towards or against Dean Barrow. While I am not defending Mr. Barrow I am not defending you either.
And, with all due respect that you have rightly earned, what you should be attacking is who or what allowed things like this to happen and not just Dean Barrow alone, for he did not commit his deviancies by himself. Many if not all political figures in Belize have sold out to one self attainable cause 'themselves' and will stop at nothing to get what they want including yourself be you politically financed or not.
It matters not whether the financial backer is Barry Bowen, Castillo, Musa or any other influential Belizean. What matters is how these influences attained their disreputable role in the running of our country without having to lift a finger to support it or its political status. Sure they place us on the marketable world of trade, finances, stock, bonds, and real estates. But who most benefits from their wealth, no one but themselves. Yes they employee Belizeans but for what little of nothing pay scale the labour office choose to set as standard of living. They are the powers of being that set and regulates the rules and boundaries of what Belize and Belizeans can accomplish in Belize.
They are the ones who obtain the million dollar contracts from the government and still do not do the job properly if at all. They are the ones who acquire 'agency' status on goods and materials and retail or wholesale them at outrageous prices to other Belizean small businessmen who do not otherwise have the finances they do, to attain the same status in world trade or bartering. They are the ones who are exempted from taxes at the border and get by with a grin and a smile here or there that gets them these million dollar loans of which they have no intentions of paying back the government of Belize.
But if you look carefully at the powers of being and our political figures you will see that they stem from the same bloodline and carry the same economic strength from generation to generation. And, who or what allowed them to have this much power over the matters of being in Belize? You and I and every other Belizean who go and vote blindly as if we have no other choice and elect the politicians who encourage the greedy in their strife to world dominance or more importantly Belize dominance.
So when you attack Mr. Barrow, take a good look at yourself and what you have attained and how you have attained it; then look at the influences that support Mr. Barrow, Sanki, Dickie Bradley, Cordel Hyde, Mike, Jorge, Mark Espat, Musa etc in their pre-electoral term; and, finally look at both political party figures and attack them as well. Because if you don't you are just the same if not worse, for condoning the corruption that passes through the hands of these people from generation to generation with one eye open and one eye shut.
Avrail Parham
Added on Date: 16:43:54 7/06/99
: Dear Tony and Kathy,
: As I mentioned in my trip report a little down this page, I REALLY enjoyed Jaguar Paw. The cave-float was one of the best things I did on my recent trip, and I'd highly, highly recommend doing it--whether with Jaguar Paw or Ian Anderson. The other tour I would recommend is the trip up the river to Lamanai. Not only do you get to see a lot of countryside, but it seemed that every bend in the river revealed another hawk or kingfisher or wading bird of some type, and at the ruins there were howler monkeys and coati on the day I was there. Nevermind that the view from the top of the pyramid over the lagoon is fantastic. If I only had a couple of days on the mainland (and I wasn't up for the trip to Tikal, which is, of course, awesome), I would suggest doing these two things if nothing else.
: Have fun wherever you decide to go,
: Jill
Jill, we certainly appreciate your timely response! How kind of you. We may make it to Tikal, if the funds hold out, and we can get there at a resonable rate (300 a pop times 2 for a single day tour from our hotel in Ambergris is more than we can go.) We are considering the Lamanai trip, at your suggestion, but were wonderting about the bug problem, (is it severe?)(can you buy deet rich bug goop there, or do you need to bring it from here?)and the cost. We have a good bit of freedom as to the starting points of our tours, as we are not locked into any hotel for more than three days. We appreciate the helpful nature you display! Thanks again!
Added on Date: 18:30:09 7/06/99
Does it rain a lot in the Cayo district in August. Also are there any vaccines needed prior to a trip in the jungle. Thanks BRAD
Added on Date: 22:45:57 7/06/99
Bruce (just 50), me (Lorraine) just 47, need help driving to relocate in Belize. (Looking for place 2-3 bdrms, big porch-screened near ocean $250- $325 US) 2 Vehicles: Great '78 Dodge van towing low trailer 'neath 26' Mac- Gregor sailboat (water-ballast for less weight). In cockpit: '82 110cc. Honda Pass-Thru motorbyke w/350 miles orig.& 10 gears - me prides. Also '95 Nissan Altima (new eng.,air, auto.).
We'll be travelling from Eugene, Oregon, down thru Cal., east to Texas, southeast along Mex. coast, across Yucatan to Belize. E-Mail if interested and not illegal or psycho, or call at (541) 344-0163.
Added on Date: 23:02:58 7/06/99
Dennis recommended an excellent sea chart! I hope the link does work now. Christoph
Added on Date: 07:13:16 7/07/99
Depending on the formation of tropical storms in the Caribbean, it can be rainy in August in Cayo but usually there is a drier period that month. I'm in Cayo almost every August and generally weather is pretty nice.
The CDC recommends chloroquine for malaria outside of Belize District, and also up-to-date sticks for tetanus/DPT and at least Hep A. As a practical matter, many travelers to Cayo don't take any precautions, but better safe than sorry.
--Lan Sluder
Added on Date: 10:29:19 7/07/99
Hi to all belizean looking for friends home and abroad.Iam also a belizean living in the u.s for quite some while now.Anybody intresting in making new friends please email me.Love ya all.Peace
Added on Date: 14:23:50 7/07/99
Jill,
Glad you had a good time at Jaguar Paw. My wife and I spent 3 nights of our honeymoon there last year (July 98) and also enjoyed it tremendously. It's good to know that things are still basically the same a year later.
Anyone interested in my trip report that I posted in August 98 can check the BelizeFirst website. My post is actually divided into two parts (one under the Ambergris section and one under the Cayo section) of the Reader Reports.
Added on Date: 14:24:03 7/07/99
: Does it rain a lot in the Cayo district in August. Also are there any vaccines needed prior to a trip in the jungle. Thanks BRAD
Added on Date: 14:47:31 7/07/99
: Does it rain a lot in the Cayo district in August. Also are there any vaccines needed prior to a trip in the jungle. Thanks BRAD
there is malaria and typhus in the jungle we stay on the beach when er are there and have no problem my husband wants to know if you are related to us his nameis artuhur richard brammer
Added on Date: 14:53:18 7/07/99
Hi
I will be in the Belize Jungles during
the first two weeks of August.
What kinds of snakes my I encounter, and
are they poisenous.
Please reply to:
ghharrac@neodata.com
George
PS: I am also looking for tours. So far I only
have air arrangements.
Added on Date: 16:50:59 7/07/99
Hi George,
If I were you, I wouldn't worry about snakes - if fact I would rejoice in seeing the elusive reptiles. Belize is blessed with approximately 60 species os snakes of which only 9 are poisonous. The venomous snakes are primarily noctornal and are rarely seen - even when they are the subject of the hike. Snakes try to avoid us humas as mush as possible and hence you rarely see them. I have guided for almost 15 years in Belizean rainforest and I have seen about 12 poisonous snakes - so you probaly won't see any of the poisonous ones. Don't worry about the snakes and sit back and enjoy Belize. There are lots of see and the sankes adds to the diversity of the tropical paradise called Belize. For your information, the sankes in Belize have hemotoxic and nuerotoxic venoms!
Enjoy your stay...be sure to visit the Community Baboon Sanctuary!
colin
Added on Date: 17:36:06 7/07/99
Dear Tony and Kathy,
I'm just curious: who charges $300 per person from Ambergris for a day tour to Tikal? (It's probably the going rate, but have you asked around for a better one?) If you were to visit, say, Jaguar Paw, Pook's Hill, Chaa Creek or a similar jungle lodge (with the exception of Chan Chich, which doesn't do Tikal because of their isolated location), you can get a tour to Tikal for more like $150 per person for a day trip. I think duPlooy's runs the cheapest day tours and has the cheapest transportation from Belize City to their lodge, but I'm not sure--do some hunting and ask lots of questions. If Tikal is really too much hassle for your schedule, Lamanai is a fantastic place, too--it's just a different experience, like comparing apples to oranges. As far as bugs go, I've been to a lot of buggy ruins and some really, really buggy islands, both in Belize and elsewhere, and as long as I've applied liberal amounts of bug juice ALL OVER (Deep Woods Off with 95% deet works fine, and you can buy it at any grocery store in the US), I've suffered minimal bites (actually, most of the time I've suffered no bites at all)--just remember to put the bug spray on, that's all. No big deal. (It's when folks say, "No, there's no bug problem, you'll be fine," and you trust them and don't put it on, THAT'S when you get into trouble!) Anyway, bugs are not an issue if you "suit up" with deet before hand...and your skin will be nice and soft afterward! As for the price of the Lamanai trip, I can't remember details, but I think from San Pedro it was something like $80 per person. Again, do some research and check out all the tour operators' websites linked on the Ambergris.com site, and remember to ask a ton of questions. Above all else, have fun!
Regards,
Jill
Added on Date: 20:28:42 7/07/99
:
: : After months of research on the internet, I have scheduled my first trip to Belize with a group called IZE. Their website was quite enticing and it seemed they could provide both the jungle (Blue Creek) and reef (South Water Caye) experiences that seem to represent this beautiful country. My wife and I, along with another couple, will be in Belize the last week in Sept. '99. I was hoping someone who frequents this chatboard might have some insight, and perhaps suggestions, regarding our trip. This could include former guests of IZE, current staff, or even locals familiar with this company. I am an adventurous man, with a healthy inner-child, who loves to explore, learn, and fish (both offshore and surf) and would sincerely appreciate any feedback. Excited in Denver.
: You could not have picked a better trip.IZE is great there camps are just the best.What blue creek are you talking about? The one in P.G.comes out of the mountain and is great for swiming,there camp is right there.Your going to have lots of fun.
Yes, it's the Blue Creek outside of P.G. Is the water as blue as in the pictures? When did you visit with I.Z.E.? Did you stay on South Water Caye? By chance, did you happen to fish while in Belize? Do I sound excited to you?!?!
Added on Date: 20:58:11 7/07/99
where is the best place to see or touch monkeys in belize
Added on Date: 10:24:02 7/08/99
what month on Ambergris are hot,cold,wet,dry
Thanks Josh
Added on Date: 10:26:13 7/08/99
There are black howler monkey troops in several areas of Belize now, including the Community Baboon Sanctuary at Bermudian Landing ... Lamanai ruins ... the Monkey River area south of Placencia ... along the Macal River in Cayo and elsewhere. You'll also see howlers at Tikal.
There also are spider monkeys in Orangewalk district (Programme for Belize lands), at Bladen Nature Reserve south of Placencia and elsewhere. I have read there are capuchin monkeys in southern Toledo but I don't know for sure.
You can also see monkeys at the Belize Zoo.
Last time I was there, last year, Lamanai Outpost Lodge were taking care of a couple of howler monkeys they had rescued.
--Lan Sluder
Belize First Magazine
Added on Date: 11:53:11 7/08/99
: Dear Tony and Kathy,
: I'm just curious: who charges $300 per person from Ambergris for a day tour to Tikal? (It's probably the going rate, but have you asked around for a better one?) If you were to visit, say, Jaguar Paw, Pook's Hill, Chaa Creek or a similar jungle lodge (with the exception of Chan Chich, which doesn't do Tikal because of their isolated location), you can get a tour to Tikal for more like $150 per person for a day trip. I think duPlooy's runs the cheapest day tours and has the cheapest transportation from Belize City to their lodge, but I'm not sure--do some hunting and ask lots of questions. If Tikal is really too much hassle for your schedule, Lamanai is a fantastic place, too--it's just a different experience, like comparing apples to oranges. As far as bugs go, I've been to a lot of buggy ruins and some really, really buggy islands, both in Belize and elsewhere, and as long as I've applied liberal amounts of bug juice ALL OVER (Deep Woods Off with 95% deet works fine, and you can buy it at any grocery store in the US), I've suffered minimal bites (actually, most of the time I've suffered no bites at all)--just remember to put the bug spray on, that's all. No big deal. (It's when folks say, "No, there's no bug problem, you'll be fine," and you trust them and don't put it on, THAT'S when you get into trouble!) Anyway, bugs are not an issue if you "suit up" with deet before hand...and your skin will be nice and soft afterward! As for the price of the Lamanai trip, I can't remember details, but I think from San Pedro it was something like $80 per person. Again, do some research and check out all the tour operators' websites linked on the Ambergris.com site, and remember to ask a ton of questions. Above all else, have fun!
: Regards,
: Jill
The going rate for a day trip from the San Ignacio area to Tikal is about $US85 per person; this typically includes all costs except the Belize Conservation Exit tax ($7.50Bz). You can also go to the border and hire a taxi or van to transport you to and from Tikal. Right now round trip charges are about $40-60US, depending on how busy the fellows are and how good you bargin.
An express bus from Belize City to Cayo District is about $7Bz. So if you're interested, you can do Tikal for a lot less than the $300US per person price quoted you. To be fair, this may have included flying from Ambergris to Tikal, which is a more expensive way to travel.
Added on Date: 11:54:30 7/08/99
It is generally wetter June - October (but there's usually a lot of nice, sunny weather, too) ... cooler December-February especially when 'Northers blow down (but it's never really cold) ... warmest April - September ... driest months are February to April, rainiest usually June and September. June through November is tropical storm season in the Western Caribbean, with storms most likely August through October, and that can really impact the weather.
Figure weather about like southern Florida and the Florida Keys.
--Lan Sluder
Added on Date: 12:00:05 7/08/99
Hi,
The best place to see black howler monkeys (alloutta pigra) up close is the Community Baboon Santuary in Bermudian Landing (13 miles from the international airport). Here the monkeys are in the wild qwhere the local people have abided my certain voluntary rules and stipulations to allow the monkeys to live in harmony with them. Visitors often get within 3-5 feet from the internationally known "SCHOOL TROOP."One word of caution, these mokeys rae in the wild and the guides wouldn't allow you to touch them fopr your own safety and the safety of the monkeys. There are over 2 thousands monkeys at the Sanctuary, so you are 100% guaranteed to see a whole lot. Enjoy your trip to Belize and do your share to keep it the tropical Jewel it is.
colin
Added on Date: 18:20:29 7/08/99
Hi,
I'm also a Belizean studying in the States and I would love to communicate with a fellow Belizean. Send me and e-mail and net's get to know each other.
colin.
Added on Date: 18:23:31 7/08/99
: My husband and I are departing for Mexico on Jul 9 and thinking about driving through Belize. We are interested in archaeology and I like pottery of old traditional designs and traditional crafts. Any info on safety of driving (have heard reports that robberies are frequent)? Actual cost range of accommodations--budget type (a dollar figure would be helpful--when people say "moderate" that is relative--we have no idea!)
: Appreciate any info from anyone who has driven and stayed in Belize on their own.
My husband and I have driven thru to Belize. We went into Mexico at McAllen, Texas (Reynosa, Mexico). We never had any problems in Belize nor Mexico. Felt safe the entire time. We camped out at Clarrisa Falls in the Cayo District and also in the Mountain Pine Ridge area. We have driven all over the country, once in our own vehicle and once in a rental vehicle. The roads between Belmopan and Punta Gorda are pretty bad (some improvements have been made), the Northern Highway is not tooooooo bad and neither is the western highway. We have never stayed in Belize City, have just driven in there and back out. That city does make me feel uneasy, but nothing has ever happened to us there. I believe you will enjoy your experience, if you consider it an adventure and just go with the flow. Don't have any type of schedule or reservations so you won't be tied to a particular place at a certain time. Have fun, I wish we were doing it again.
Added on Date: 20:49:55 7/08/99
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Added on Date: 22:01:49 7/08/99
My husband and I stayed in Belize ofr 19 days from BC to Crooked Tree to San Ignaciq to Dangriga to Caye Caulker and we have aquired multiple bites( mosquitos sand flies or flees or gnats) I don"t know what. We are still being biten. We a;so belives we might have gotten lice. We don't know for sune. My hsband has fumigated everything fro the house to the car. We tayed in budget places, but did not do any camping. The places were moderate. We need help. What can we do to get rid of these critters. We are also going to the doctors Help
Added on Date: 22:26:25 7/08/99
: Hi to all belizean looking for friends home and abroad.Iam also a belizean living in the u.s for quite some while now.Anybody intresting in making new friends please email me.Love ya all.Peace
Added on Date: 02:03:42 7/09/99
Cathy,
Sand flies really cause problems for some people. I doubt you are still getting fresh bites, but often there is a lingering rash or a series of skin infections. There also is another kind of bug, forgotten the name, that sometimes affects people traveling in tropical and sub-tropical areas -- the bites show up at points where clothing or belts are tight.
It doesn't sound like you have this, but botflies, with the help of mosquitoes, lay eggs under the skin, and then larvae are born and live there. One treatment is to spread petroleum jelly over the skin, which kills the larva because it can't breathe. Red ant bites cause strong reactions in some people, too.
Do see a doctor. He or she will likely prescribe an ointment which will take care of the bites quickly.
--Lan Sluder
Added on Date: 11:47:36 7/09/99
jus' chillin' people
Added on Date: 16:43:27 7/09/99
Has anyone heard anything about the 144,000, (as in Revelation) leaving the US and coming to San Ignacio? Is Belize a "secret hiding place?"
Added on Date: 08:42:45 7/10/99
: : Dear Tony and Kathy,
We are so appreciative to those of you who have responded
to our inquiries regarding our upcoming trip. For clarification -
yes the 300 (280)dollar trip to Tikal did include
airfare from Ambergris - and yes, it was far out of
our budget. We will be working off of Judy's suggestion
and basing in the San Ignacio area for a few days and
trying to fit as much in as possible while we are
there. Something else that came up in conversation was:
what kind of small things might we bring from here
that would be appreciated as gifts by the local population.
Small appliances are out of the question (ha) but I have
on many occasion left things like bungee cords and
the like on trip to Mexico. (very useful for divers,
but not sure they'd be of any value to the inlanders.
Any suggestions on this?
Added on Date: 10:55:38 7/10/99
Wow, it's sure going to be crowded. Bring sleeping bags and watch out for crawly things.
: Has anyone heard anything about the 144,000, (as in Revelation) leaving the US and coming to San Ignacio? Is Belize a "secret hiding place?"
Added on Date: 10:58:54 7/10/99
: Wow, it's sure going to be crowded. Bring sleeping bags and watch out for crawly things.
:
: : Has anyone heard anything about the 144,000, (as in Revelation) leaving the US and coming to San Ignacio? Is Belize a "secret hiding place?"
I wonder if these 144,000 thousand are going to ask permission, or if they will just use the "power of god's word" and just move in regardless. Hmmm Makes one wonder how the Belizians might react, no?
Added on Date: 11:17:27 7/10/99
: : Wow, it's sure going to be crowded. Bring sleeping bags and watch out for crawly things.
: :
: : : Has anyone heard anything about the 144,000, (as in Revelation) leaving the US and coming to San Ignacio? Is Belize a "secret hiding place?"
: I wonder if these 144,000 thousand are going to ask permission, or if they will just use the "power of god's word" and just move in regardless. Hmmm Makes one wonder how the Belizians might react, no?
Do you think the Belizean Immigration Department might be hiring?
Added on Date: 14:26:37 7/10/99
Avril,
With respect to the fact that Belize is a democratic
government, change can and will come if and when enough
of the population oppose something. I have no doubt that
you would be able to find several hundred (or more) persons
with like kind thinking. Enough of the population of Belize
however understand that bringing investment dollars into
the country is important.
Perhaps you might look at this situation and take a different
approach. I tend to agree that someone simply sending U.S. $50,000
then is granted citizenship is a bit much. However, requiring someone
to make an investment in Belize (suggesting they might spend time there)
would, in my opinion be a better approach.
I have visited Belize 6 times and plan to be there again 3 or 4 more
times over the next few months planning to build on a piece of property
I purchased there. I would like to later live there for part of the year
and it interestes me very much to become a Belizian citizen. I would be very
proud to tell people that I was a citizen of such a wonderful country with
such great people. I would also like to help (in any way I could) to see
the country and its do very well. I don't want to be there at their expense,
quite the contrary, I plan to give of myself.
This is just another perspective you might be interested reading. I hope
you will consider all angles before you would throw us all out.
By the way, there is no such word as "irregardless". Regardless or
irrespective would suffice.
Tom
Added on Date: 18:03:48 7/10/99
: : : Wow, it's sure going to be crowded. Bring sleeping bags and watch out for crawly things.
: : :
: : : : Has anyone heard anything about the 144,000, (as in Revelation) leaving the US and coming to San Ignacio? Is Belize a "secret hiding place?"
: : I wonder if these 144,000 thousand are going to ask permission, or if they will just use the "power of god's word" and just move in regardless. Hmmm Makes one wonder how the Belizians might react, no?
:
: Do you think the Belizean Immigration Department might be hiring?
...maybe sharpshooters...
Added on Date: 10:16:05 7/11/99
sunday july 11/ 99 placencia has earth shaker any news will put my mind at ease
Added on Date: 11:36:08 7/11/99
While we've not read every posting here, we have,in fact, touched on most of them. One additional question arrises: we saw a reference to "other chat boards" in one of the postings - does anyone know where we might find additional chat boards for this lovely country?
Added on Date: 11:48:36 7/11/99
: sunday july 11/ 99 placencia has earth shaker any news will put my mind at ease
Would us as well, we are going to be there in a few weeks, and would be concerned about the human factor as well - hopefully no injuries...
Added on Date: 11:51:12 7/11/99
Anyone there in Belize because of this last days
encoded language. Looking for residents of Belize
who have moved from America recently. Lots of
questions that I'd like to ask. Thanks, John R.
Added on Date: 11:56:09 7/11/99
Just what has been reported on other Belize boards and mailing lists: Very minor, brief shaking, no damage, no problem. Apparently centered in Guatemala, felt along much of the coast of Belize.
--Lan Sluder
Added on Date: 12:50:17 7/11/99
The most active are the ones on the Belize by Naturalight Board (also owned by Tony Rath, who owns this one) and AmbergrisCaye.com. AOL's travel board, Belize section, is active sometimes. The rec.travel.latinamerica newgroup often has questions/comments on Belize.
--Lan Sluder
Belize First Magazine
Added on Date: 12:53:39 7/11/99
WUZ UP BELIZEAN CREW. I FINALLY FOUND THE NEW BELIZEAN CHAT LINE. IT'S GREAT TO SEE BELIZE PROGRESSING IN THIS WAY. NUFF LOVE TO MY HOME TOWN AND FELLOW PEOPLE. KEEP DA FAITH.
Added on Date: 13:09:47 7/11/99
I, for one, have been following many, many of these posts on this board, and would like to simply offer my thanks and appreciation to Mr. Sluder for the timely, informative, responses that he posts. Our upcoming trip means a great deal to us, and as there is not all that much definative data on Belize, the information from this board, and specifically Mr. Sluder, has been really appreciated. Thanks Lan, for taking the time to keep us posted on what is going on there.
Sincerely,
Tony
Added on Date: 17:02:54 7/11/99
7/11/99
HELP! NEED TO FIND THE E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR A GOOD FRIEND CHARLES EWING. ANY INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
NUFF LOVE
BO
Added on Date: 20:27:15 7/11/99
You're welcome. Hope my suggestions pan out for you.
--Lan Sluder
Added on Date: 21:19:31 7/11/99
: sunday july 11/ 99 placencia has earth shaker any news will put my mind at ease
Heard this a.m. that it was centered at 15 degrees N. Lat. and 88.26 W. Long. which looks like it would be somewhere close to Puerto Barrios. As much rain as we have had in the past 26 hours Belize City shook like the proverbial bowl of jelly. No damage in the country that I am aware of at this time.
Added on Date: 21:27:29 7/11/99
: where is the best place to see or touch monkeys in belize
There are also howlers along the beliz2 River, a few miles east of Belmopan. Canoe trips can be arranged in San Ignacio. And this should go without saying, but no wild howler monkey will let you get close enough to touch it - nor should you want to. They are our genetic cousins and every disease they carry can hop right over to you.
Added on Date: 22:06:32 7/11/99
: Thinking of taking dive trip to Caye Caulker. Wondering if there are air conditioned rooms, resturants, transportation on island? How does the diving compare with Cozumel, Roatan, Bahamas? Thanks in advance.
Since no one else has done it, I will compare Caulker's diving with the Bahamas (I haven't been to Roatan). If you make it out to the atolls, you are going to find diving that the Bahamas just can't match. Glover's and Turneffe have reefs and walls that get a fraction of the visitors that the Bahamas get. The visibility is about the same, but their is a little more diversity in Belize, given its more southern location. But your chances of big animal encounters are actually better in some parts of the Bahamas - more reef sharks and big rays. But you've never seen anything like the Blue Hole. For a trip to the outer atolls, don't trust the people who will approach you on the street in Caulker. Go only with Chocolate or Frenchy. Some of the others have no safety equipment on their boats, no VHF radios etc, and it is a LONG way out to the atolls.
Added on Date: 22:16:24 7/11/99
: See on the Channel 5 news that a German tourist was robbed at gun point by five men on a pier on Caulker. Police have detained five men in connection with the robbery.
: --Lan Sluder
What has happened on this incident since the last posting? Anyone know? We are certainly interested...
Added on Date: 08:16:09 7/12/99
Belize ranks # 83 out of 174 countries as the best
place to live, according to a new United Nations
report on quality of life for residents of the
world’s countries. In the U.N. rankings, Belize
was just behind Peru, St. Lucia and Jamaica and
just ahead of Paraguay, Georgia and Turkey.
The top 10 countries in terms of quality of life
were:
1. Canada (ranked # 1 for six consecutive years)
2. Norway
3. United States
4. Japan
5. Belgium
6. Sweden
7. Australia
8. Netherlands
9. Iceland
10. Britain
At the other end of the scale, the 10 worst
countries, all in Africa, are, from the bottom up,
Sierra Leone, Niger, Ethiopia, Burkina Faso,
Burundi, Mozambique, Guinea-Bissau, Eritrea, Mali
and the Central African Republic.
The survey takes into account health care, life
expectancy, education and income.
In the Central America and Caribbean Basic region,
Barbados ranked #29, the Bahamas # 31, Costa Rica
# 45, Trinidad and Tobago # 46, Panama # 49,
Mexico # 50, Saint Kitts and Nevis # 51, Grenada #
52, Dominica # 53, Cuba # 58, Saint Vincent and
the Grenadines # 75, Saint Lucia # 81, El
Salvador # 107, Honduras # 114, Guatemala #117
and Nicaragua # 121.
The 20 top countries in terms of empowerment of
women, according to the U.N., were Norway,
Sweden, Denmark, Canada, Germany, Finland,
Iceland, United States, Australia, Netherlands,
New Zealand, Austria, Bahamas, Switzerland,
Luxembourg, Britain, Belgium, Portugal, South
Africa and Ireland. This ranking considered
income of women compared with per capita income,
number of women in government and number of women
with professional or tech
Added on Date: 12:36:02 7/12/99
Well, its time for our annual visit to Placencia. This time I think we are going to try out Tradewinds. (I think this is the name) They are the little places right in town on the water. I heard that one had a kitchen. I need the prices and who to talk to to book for Aug.26th thru Sept.4th. I don't mind calling either, I just can't find the number!! If anyone sees Vance Cabral, tell him we said HI and we will see him then!!
Added on Date: 18:49:30 7/12/99
: WUZ UP BELIZEAN CREW. I FINALLY FOUND THE NEW BELIZEAN CHAT LINE. IT'S GREAT TO SEE BELIZE PROGRESSING IN THIS WAY. NUFF LOVE TO MY HOME TOWN AND FELLOW PEOPLE. KEEP DA FAITH.
Added on Date: 19:50:12 7/12/99
I am not in no way trying to player hate belizeans aborad,but a lot of belizeans come to America and forget all about Belize. Probably i should not say forget but some give up their homeland and don't even visit.
I think that belizean Americans should try and go home every other year especially for the september celebrations, Belize is truly a great place and you guys know it too you lived there once remember!
Added on Date: 20:28:57 7/12/99
I will be in California for six months and i miss home(belize) really bad. I would love to feel at home talking to some of my people.
Added on Date: 20:50:56 7/12/99
I honestly do not know how to deal with the American life. i need to feel at home by talking to my belizeans.
Added on Date: 21:01:48 7/12/99
Thank you very for your advice I do belive you are right. Besides the bug bites we hada a fabulous time. Will be writing a report soon: Cathy,
: Sand flies really cause problems for some people. I doubt you are still getting fresh bites, but often there is a lingering rash or a series of skin infections. There also is another kind of bug, forgotten the name, that sometimes affects people traveling in tropical and sub-tropical areas -- the bites show up at points where clothing or belts are tight.
: It doesn't sound like you have this, but botflies, with the help of mosquitoes, lay eggs under the skin, and then larvae are born and live there. One treatment is to spread petroleum jelly over the skin, which kills the larva because it can't breathe. Red ant bites cause strong reactions in some people, too.
: Do see a doctor. He or she will likely prescribe an ointment which will take care of the bites quickly.
: --Lan Sluder
Added on Date: 23:52:27 7/12/99
You are speaking very wisely. Too many Belizeans leave and choose not to return. I like hearing about those that come home to share their education. I like your e-mail address!! Not everyone will appreciate what a fryjack is!!!
: I am not in no way trying to player hate belizeans aborad,but a lot of belizeans come to America and forget all about Belize. Probably i should not say forget but some give up their homeland and don't even visit.
: I think that belizean Americans should try and go home every other year especially for the september celebrations, Belize is truly a great place and you guys know it too you lived there once remember!
Added on Date: 01:45:03 7/13/99
You will find all the info you need at the Tradewinds website. Here it is: http://www.placencia.com/members/tradewind.html
Enjoy your vacation.
: Well, its time for our annual visit to Placencia. This time I think we are going to try out Tradewinds. (I think this is the name) They are the little places right in town on the water. I heard that one had a kitchen. I need the prices and who to talk to to book for Aug.26th thru Sept.4th. I don't mind calling either, I just can't find the number!! If anyone sees Vance Cabral, tell him we said HI and we will see him then!!
Added on Date: 07:30:44 7/13/99
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Added on Date: 09:35:02 7/13/99
I can expect to get jumped on, but this
may have been started by someone belong-
ing to a certain religeous group, which
claims only people from their practice
will enter heaven.
Even if so why go to Belize.
I dont recall anywhere in the Bible
Belize by its name or any other name
was suppose to be the safety net fo any
such group.
Although Belize can do with tourists
I'm not sure all that number of people
could be properly accomodated.
I guess this a just a practical joke.
joelwb
Added on Date: 09:38:21 7/13/99
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Added on Date: 09:45:57 7/13/99
: I will be in California for six months and i miss home(belize) really bad. I would love to feel at home talking to some of my people.
Added on Date: 13:50:49 7/13/99
This is a response to Tom from my previous post "passport and citizenship's". I am placing back on top because I would not have known any other person responded besides Ms. Symme had I not looked into another post.
Tom's response:
Avril,
With respect to the fact that Belize is a democratic
government, change can and will come if and when enough
of the population oppose something. I have no doubt that
you would be able to find several hundred (or more) persons
with like kind thinking. Enough of the population of Belize
however understand that bringing investment dollars into
the country is important.
Perhaps you might look at this situation and take a different
approach. I tend to agree that someone simply sending U.S. $50,000
then is granted citizenship is a bit much. However, requiring someone
to make an investment in Belize (suggesting they might spend time there)
would, in my opinion be a better approach.
I have visited Belize 6 times and plan to be there again 3 or 4 more
times over the next few months planning to build on a piece of property
I purchased there. I would like to later live there for part of the year
and it interestes me very much to become a Belizian citizen. I would be very
proud to tell people that I was a citizen of such a wonderful country with
such great people. I would also like to help (in any way I could) to see
the country and its do very well. I don't want to be there at their expense,
quite the contrary, I plan to give of myself.
This is just another perspective you might be interested reading. I hope
you will consider all angles before you would throw us all out.
By the way, there is no such word as "irregardless". Regardless or
irrespective would suffice.
Tom
My response :
Tom
You took me way back to my primary level education challenging my knowledge and usage of the words "irrespective and irregardless". You may not like it Tom but they do exist.
Here they are look them up irregardless of your beliefs.
From Websters:
Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927.
The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
Irrespective
Ir`re*spec"tive (?), a.
1. Without regard for conditions, circumstances, or consequences; unbiased; independent; impartial; as, an irrespective judgment.
According to this doctrine, it must be resolved wholly into the absolute, irrespective will of God. Rogers.
2. Disrespectful. [Obs.] Sir C. Cornwallis. Irrespective of, regardless of; without regard to; as, irrespective of differences.
Main Entry: ir·re·spec·tive of
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'spek-tiv-
Function: preposition
Date: 1839
I have never disapproved of any other nationals becoming a citizen of Belize just those who reap and ponder without respect and regards for the people of Belize irregardless or irrespective of their legal or non-legal claims.
My e-mail was aimed towards the government and not individuals. And as I stated before not many Belizeans knew of this program. Since my last post to Ms. Symme I now have 100+ e-mails regarding this issue from Belizeans living in Belize who did not know or was not aware of this program.
And again like I said I have protested along with or possibly more than 300 people with license to protest and signatures to debating the points. As well as many Belizeans politicians before they were elected were not successful in their struggle before they fell prey to the corruption at hand.
However, my encounters were many, many years ago and I have recently read that in Punta Gorda protesters gathered the same way I did and they were successful in there pursuit. This does not mean that any other protest after will be successful either.
So yes, I am privy to change of thought and open to suggestions. But I will defend my country and its government be they corrupt or otherwise against those who mean nothing but harm for my country, its people and its land. If you are not one of these people then you have nothing to worry about but if you are I will pursue diligently.
Furthermore, I believe that my contributions to this board outweighs my errors in word usage, punctuation and grammar.
And, there is no one who has made an entry on this board without mistakes and errors. So if you want to get technical re-check your response to me. And for the the record I was right in my usage of the words "irregardless and irrespective", irregardless of your beliefs.
Avrail
Added on Date: 14:03:04 7/13/99
: This is a response to Tom from my previous post "passport and citizenship's". I am placing back on top because I would not have known any other person responded besides Ms. Symme had I not looked into another post.
: Tom's response:
: Avril,
: With respect to the fact that Belize is a democratic
: government, change can and will come if and when enough
: of the population oppose something. I have no doubt that
: you would be able to find several hundred (or more) persons
: with like kind thinking. Enough of the population of Belize
: however understand that bringing investment dollars into
: the country is important.
: Perhaps you might look at this situation and take a different
: approach. I tend to agree that someone simply sending U.S. $50,000
: then is granted citizenship is a bit much. However, requiring someone
: to make an investment in Belize (suggesting they might spend time there)
: would, in my opinion be a better approach.
: I have visited Belize 6 times and plan to be there again 3 or 4 more
: times over the next few months planning to build on a piece of property
: I purchased there. I would like to later live there for part of the year
: and it interestes me very much to become a Belizian citizen. I would be very
: proud to tell people that I was a citizen of such a wonderful country with
: such great people. I would also like to help (in any way I could) to see
: the country and its do very well. I don't want to be there at their expense,
: quite the contrary, I plan to give of myself.
: This is just another perspective you might be interested reading. I hope
: you will consider all angles before you would throw us all out.
: By the way, there is no such word as "irregardless". Regardless or
: irrespective would suffice.
: Tom
: My response :
: Tom
: You took me way back to my primary level education challenging my knowledge and usage of the words "irrespective and irregardless". You may not like it Tom but they do exist.
: Here they are look them up irregardless of your beliefs.
: From Websters:
: Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
: Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
: Function: adverb
: Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
: Date: circa 1912
: nonstandard : REGARDLESS
: usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927.
: The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
:
: Irrespective
: Ir`re*spec"tive (?), a.
: 1. Without regard for conditions, circumstances, or consequences; unbiased; independent; impartial; as, an irrespective judgment.
: According to this doctrine, it must be resolved wholly into the absolute, irrespective will of God. Rogers.
: 2. Disrespectful. [Obs.] Sir C. Cornwallis. Irrespective of, regardless of; without regard to; as, irrespective of differences.
: Main Entry: ir·re·spec·tive of
: Pronunciation: "ir-i-'spek-tiv-
: Function: preposition
: Date: 1839
:
: I have never disapproved of any other nationals becoming a citizen of Belize just those who reap and ponder without respect and regards for the people of Belize irregardless or irrespective of their legal or non-legal claims.
: My e-mail was aimed towards the government and not individuals. And as I stated before not many Belizeans knew of this program. Since my last post to Ms. Symme I now have 100+ e-mails regarding this issue from Belizeans living in Belize who did not know or was not aware of this program.
: And again like I said I have protested along with or possibly more than 300 people with license to protest and signatures to debating the points. As well as many Belizeans politicians before they were elected were not successful in their struggle before they fell prey to the corruption at hand.
: However, my encounters were many, many years ago and I have recently read that in Punta Gorda protesters gathered the same way I did and they were successful in there pursuit. This does not mean that any other protest after will be successful either.
: So yes, I am privy to change of thought and open to suggestions. But I will defend my country and its government be they corrupt or otherwise against those who mean nothing but harm for my country, its people and its land. If you are not one of these people then you have nothing to worry about but if you are I will pursue diligently.
: Furthermore, I believe that my contributions to this board outweighs my errors in word usage, punctuation and grammar.
: And, there is no one who has made an entry on this board without mistakes and errors. So if you want to get technical re-check your response to me. And for the the record I was right in my usage of the words "irregardless and irrespective", irregardless of your beliefs.
: Avrail
Please explain your use of the word "ponder'
Added on Date: 17:14:09 7/13/99
Princess:
How old are you? Depending on your age, it could make a great deal of difference as to what is acceptable to you. I dare say, I was brought to America, when I was 11 years old. During